Davey, thanks, that's what I've found. Plus I've noticed that I'm more inclined to respond to jaikus because I don't feel as though I'm cluttering up everyone's twitter home page by throwing my @replies to the top (well, depending on settings).
How would you feel about the comments being limited to 140 chars, too?
ymb, you're probably right. It does seem that a lot of people are sticking with Jaiku because their favorite micro-blogging contacts are sticking with Jaiku, or because they feel there's just too much noise on Twitter, i.e. people could be here because of the community, rather than functionality. In which case, my backwards phrasing could still be appropriate.
@Neil for me it is all about the community. It is fun and informal but also can get serious and helpful when needed. I think it is because of its design that it is this way so I get worried when people rush of looking for the next big thing or ask developers to make things complex. I find Rejaw pretty good as well
@WaveyDavey001, 'micro-blogging' applications can easily become an interface nightmare, I've working-on/studying them for yonks now, and yes, the simpler and more immediate they are, the better.
@adewale, have you seen how people are creating pseudo channels in twitter using #someword combined with search? And have you seen BrightKite 'Walls'? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/anewbackchannelforliveeventsbrightkitewall.php
@Neil Have you tried Rejaw? It has a different interface to most, but in the msin it works. It has a small but active community that seems to be fairly Apple centric (but not exclusivley) and mainly US users
@neil the HashTags idea is also in Identi.ca, but channels win for me as if you are not in the channel then you you don't get the posts (and you can join and leave channels if they become too "noisey" for you)
The BrightKite walls idea looks really good, although reading the commetns it seems like they might be trying to make it too complicated (moderation etc)
@WaveyDavey001, yes I've tried Rejaw. I didn't like the interface (too much brown) or think it was a service I could grow in to. Do you use the desktop client?
@jsaarikko, they make it harder to follow conversations from start to finish, but then they also make it very easy to see the latest updates (because everything is always pushed to the top, rather than threaded, and potentially hidden away). There's no hierarchy when you have @replies, everything goes in at the top of the timeline. But it is a pain when someone tweets 'can someone recommend a...' and you never know what everyone else has replied with.
When you say tracing @replies, do you mean receiving notifications when mentions @your_name ?
I hate to be an absolute crumb, and it isn't my intention to go spamming round, but if we're mentioning other services, I have been 'working on' a micro-blogging app which has just gone in to private beta, http://SoIndustry.com. It's very early days, but it would be great to have a few more micro-blogging experts/critics in there. One of my developer friends told me it was the best looking app he had seen, so maybe the landing page is worth a peek, at least.
@waveydavey001, yes sorry it's private beta (only been up a week and it's my first Rails app), but if you register, I'll activate you asap. Any criticism would be great to hear.
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Much prefer Jaiku comments. Conversations happen here rather than a series of short statements
1 year, 1 month ago by WaveyDavey001
Davey, thanks, that's what I've found. Plus I've noticed that I'm more inclined to respond to jaikus because I don't feel as though I'm cluttering up everyone's twitter home page by throwing my @replies to the top (well, depending on settings).
How would you feel about the comments being limited to 140 chars, too?
1 year, 1 month ago by Neil
probably would have been better to ask the other way round (does anyone prefer twitter @replies...).
and the fact that you can have longer replies and use Markdown syntax is killer
Just a shame that the volume of people on Twitter is all most people seem to care about.
1 year, 1 month ago by ymb
@ymb +1
1 year, 1 month ago by akonan
ymb, you're probably right. It does seem that a lot of people are sticking with Jaiku because their favorite micro-blogging contacts are sticking with Jaiku, or because they feel there's just too much noise on Twitter, i.e. people could be here because of the community, rather than functionality. In which case, my backwards phrasing could still be appropriate.
1 year, 1 month ago by Neil
@Neil for me it is all about the community. It is fun and informal but also can get serious and helpful when needed. I think it is because of its design that it is this way so I get worried when people rush of looking for the next big thing or ask developers to make things complex. I find Rejaw pretty good as well
1 year, 1 month ago by WaveyDavey001
Personally one of the things I find most appealing about Jaiku are the channels for events for instance #slush
I really like being able to vicariously attend a conference
1 year, 1 month ago by adewale
@WaveyDavey001, 'micro-blogging' applications can easily become an interface nightmare, I've working-on/studying them for yonks now, and yes, the simpler and more immediate they are, the better.
@adewale, have you seen how people are creating pseudo channels in twitter using #someword combined with search? And have you seen BrightKite 'Walls'? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/anewbackchannelforliveeventsbrightkitewall.php
1 year, 1 month ago by Neil
@Neil Have you tried Rejaw? It has a different interface to most, but in the msin it works. It has a small but active community that seems to be fairly Apple centric (but not exclusivley) and mainly US users
1 year, 1 month ago by WaveyDavey001
@neil the HashTags idea is also in Identi.ca, but channels win for me as if you are not in the channel then you you don't get the posts (and you can join and leave channels if they become too "noisey" for you)
The BrightKite walls idea looks really good, although reading the commetns it seems like they might be trying to make it too complicated (moderation etc)
1 year, 1 month ago by ymb
@replies sucks big time! Though having a way to trace @replies in Jaiku would make it even better.
1 year, 1 month ago by jsaarikko
@WaveyDavey001, yes I've tried Rejaw. I didn't like the interface (too much brown) or think it was a service I could grow in to. Do you use the desktop client?
@jsaarikko, they make it harder to follow conversations from start to finish, but then they also make it very easy to see the latest updates (because everything is always pushed to the top, rather than threaded, and potentially hidden away). There's no hierarchy when you have @replies, everything goes in at the top of the timeline. But it is a pain when someone tweets 'can someone recommend a...' and you never know what everyone else has replied with.
When you say tracing @replies, do you mean receiving notifications when mentions @your_name ?
I hate to be an absolute crumb, and it isn't my intention to go spamming round, but if we're mentioning other services, I have been 'working on' a micro-blogging app which has just gone in to private beta, http://SoIndustry.com. It's very early days, but it would be great to have a few more micro-blogging experts/critics in there. One of my developer friends told me it was the best looking app he had seen, so maybe the landing page is worth a peek, at least.
1 year, 1 month ago by Neil
@neil I'll try it. is it a private beta? I doubt it will make me leave my communities but I'm happy to offer any constructive criticism
1 year, 1 month ago by WaveyDavey001
@waveydavey001, yes sorry it's private beta (only been up a week and it's my first Rails app), but if you register, I'll activate you asap. Any criticism would be great to hear.
1 year, 1 month ago by Neil